Atlantis the Lost City-A Lesson From Plato
71Atlantis the Lost City
Has the lost city of Atlantis been found? The Sun, a UK tabloid, had an article stating someone has found the location using Google Earth. Google Earth denies the claim stating the lines seen are just the result of sonar used by boats measuring the ocean's floor.
Read the stories
- \'Atlantis\' spotted on ocean floor off Africa | The Sun |News
THIS is the amazing image which could show the fabled sunken city of Atlantis - Google Rejects \'Atlantis\' Discovery
Google Earth images showing what resembled a grid of streets on the ocean floor off the coast of Africa have sparked an intense debate over the true identity of the underwater discovery.
See for yourself on Google Earth
Atlantis
Some History from Timaeus
Plato learned of Atlantis from someone who had been told the story by his grandfather when he was a young boy. The grandfather had heard the story from a friend of his father's, Solon.
Solon had traveled to Egypt, probably in search of knowledge. (People were always searching for knowledge back then.) Solon arrived at the city, Sais, that was located where the Nile divides. He discovered that their town goddess was the same as Athens', namely Athena (although she was called Neith in Sais).
The people of Sais seemed to love Athenians and claimed to be related somehow. They greeted Solon and received him with great honor. (That's Greekenese for with wild parties and great feasts...all in the search of knowledge, right?)
Solon, wishing to show off his knowledge, began boring them with the history of his land. He told them about the first man and the great flood...who survived, who was related to who...generally stuff no-one was interested in.
Finally one of Sais' priests (priest-another name for scholar in the old days) laughed at him telling Solon that he didn't even know his own history. This so enraged Solon that he wanted to fight the priest, even though the priest was an ancient old man. The priest (let's call him Joe for lack of a better name)...so Joe laughed at Solon and said, "O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are never anything but children". (Hellenes is what they called the Athenians because the Athenians were always partying and womanizing.)
Read Plato's Description of Atlantis
- The Internet Classics Archive | Critias by Plato
Critias by Plato, part of the Internet Classics Archive - The Internet Classics Archive | Timaeus by Plato
Timaeus by Plato, part of the Internet Classics Archive
More History from Timaeus
Joe then started telling Solon the real history of his country. He told of floods, great fires and earthquakes. Joe explained to Solon that disaster after disaster, the only people left were the uneducated ones who lived in the mountains. Because of this, their civilization had to reboot after every disaster.
Joe also told Solon that Sais never had these problems because they were protected by the river Nile. (The river Nile runs north, unlike most rivers who run south. Thus the river Nile, by not conforming to generalized beliefs about rivers, is able to offer protection from disaster. Never believe people who tell you to fit in!)
Anyway, Joe told Solon that with every reboot people lost knowledge. That was why Solon's history was no better than an child's tale. (Yikes! The bogeyman is everywhere!) Sometimes there were more people, sometimes there were less, but they never remembered the facts.
Once upon a time Athens was the best at everything...war, government, noble deeds and beauty. (War was big in the old days, oh yea, still big...sorry, my bad.) Solon was amazed. Joe told him that Athens was actually begun a 1000 years before Sais. Athena began Athens first, but Sais' records still existed. (nyanyanyane). Solon could feel free to go through these records anytime.
Joe pointed out the similarities in the Sais' and Athenian's ways of life, the similarities of beliefs, the similarities of seeking knowledge. He told Solon how Athena loved Athens most, how she thought that Athens would produce men whom she could be proud of. Joe told how Athens excelled at war and wisdom and honored Athena as no other people could.
Solon was amazed. He did not believe Joe. Joe told him to go to the temple and search through the records if he did not believe. Sais had recorded many stupendous deeds of the Athenians. There was one that outshone all the others.
The Athenians stood against Atlantis! Solon did not understand. Who was Atlantis that this stood out before everything else? If Athens was first in everything, what did Atlantis matter. Joe laughed. Atlantis was descended from Poseidon!
Oh No! More History, now from Critias
Atlantis was a country island that was beyond the Pillars of Hercules (now know as the Straits of Gibraltar). It was ruled by 1 king and 9 princes. The legend goes that Poseidon loved a mortal woman and had 5 sets of twin sons. (Luckily this is in the distant past, who could support 10 sons nowadays?!) It seems everyone was a specialist. You could specialize in war, husbandry (raising animals), artistry and government, to name a few. (why do I only feel the need to explain "husbandry"?)
Now these princes and their king were of godly blood and believed that they needed to obey the god's rule. Poseidon had left them rules inscribed above the temple. Above all else they were to protect family. (Not so different from what my mother taught me.)
A long time passed. They were successful above all men. This was a place of comfort and and peace. Nothing lasts forever! The story states that they became too interbred with the human species and lost their godlike ability to be happy.
They defied one of Poseidon's rules. "They were not to take up arms against one another, and they were all to come to the rescue if any one in any of their cities attempted to overthrow the royal house; like their ancestors, they were to deliberate in common about war and other matters, giving the supremacy to the descendants of Atlas. And the king was not to have the power of life and death over any of his kinsmen unless he had the assent of the majority of the ten."
They became more and more human and over time their greed grew. They attempted to take over the world. Zeus, watching from Olympus, did not like this. (Zeus-father and king of Gods). He caused a great earthquake, tsunami, landslide...who knows.In 24 hours Atlantis no longer existed...it had been swallowed by the sea.
Fact or Fiction
Critias tells Plato about Atlantis as if it was a real story. A story passed down in his family for many years. He believed the story true. Since that time people have been trying to prove the existence of Atlantis without success.
People have theorized that the Atlantins were the fathers of the Greeks, the Egyptians and the Incas. All societies thought to be ahead of their times.
The image shown on Google Earth is approximately where Atlantis was thought to exist. Fact or fiction...you decide.
What we Learned
Let us reflect on what we learned:
- Sometimes, people know more about us than we know ourselves.
- Not every old person is stupid.
- Write down your memories, or they will disappear
- Do not anger the Gods!
- Know your history
- Live in the mountains.
Here is another great hub on what has been found on Google Earth!!
CommentsLoading...
Nice job on this one Kari. This is the second Hub I've already seen today on a topic I would have liked to cover, but it looks like you had more info. than me, and put it together nicely anyway. I like the pic of the calm blue water. LOL
Great story! Wanted to write a Hub about it... But hey, there you were!
fantastic - I read about the story on the BBC website, and you've added so much more to it.
Great hub!
Atlantis was always a place I just "felt" was real...
}i{
To K@ri: Thanks for referencing my Hub... and maybe you can finish the Plato Dialogue? ("This is Your Zeus Speaking...")
Thanks Kari. When I was researching Atlantis, I found a lot of speculation as to where it may be, and there were about 10 possible locations. Before writing, I would have liked to pinpoint the location, and didn't really feel like going through all of them, especially with what little info. there was.
However, you left it open to question, and put together some nice history on it.
I always thought that Atlantis, was probably the best name for a place. It's just a great name. I passed a billboard one time for a strip club named Atlantis, and that really just didn't work.
Some people dispute the existence of Atlantis, but if it really sunk under water, in a time where records weren't a big concern, then naturally people would forget about it.
Congratulations K@ri, this hub is in the hubnuggets list (you did it again...wow!) Check it out: http://hubpages.com/hub/hubnuggets-feb27-2009 :-)
I'm learning more...
great information - really enjoyed your hub and congratulatons for producing a hubnugget....cheers
very interesting read. I had to download the videos - buffering is slow. Anyway, they could just interview Patrick Duffy to know where it is! LOL thanks for sharing :D
I really enjoyed this. Thanks for the excellent Hub! I especially liked the "What We Learned" at the end. "don't anger the gods"...I am off to sacrifice a goat, may as well start the day off right!
Congratulations Kari on being nominated for one of the best hubs! Your writing deserves this honor!
I have always believed that Atlantis exists,
how come there are so many dibelievers, I suppose they think that because they cant see it it cant possibly exist...
How about God or Santa Claus!
great site will return for updates
Excellent hub! Actually I think those landforms are not artificial; therefore, they're can't be the remains of Atlantis or any other lost civilization. I've seen similar natural structures on the earth, as well as other planets, specifically Mars, and on many satellites or moons. You can't believe some of the natural formations on those alien worlds! Nevertheless, being a glutton for all matter of antiquity, I'm definitely intrigued by these images. Keep up the good work!
Great Hub and pretty interesting video. It definitely looks like it was man made. With all of the references and stories their had to have been a place called Atlantis that resembles the stories.
great hub, I wonder what really happened to it
Loved this hub! Thanks.
very interesting
Good hub made me laugh! You got it though. There are some very interesting documentaries on this topic too ... google away lol
lol funny hub!:) This Joe guy telling me things... it feels as thought I knew him form somewhere.
I also love the hub layout. I've just learned a great thing. Thanks!
Hi k@ri,
Step into ur hub searching by Atlantis hubs, like it is also very interesting.
Nice move with Google Earth. XD
I like the post. I have a similiar one but to let you know those grids are actually a natural phemon. Their are several groups of them that form. One is off the coast of Florida....forty miles north of bahia honda Cuba. Corse there is reports of an ancient buried city there or near Havana. Ever hear of the blue holes of Florida?
Kari do you think this place you are talking people can me the permuda triangle?????????? Is it from History realy you got it or it is just a phylosophy
Splendid hub! I've always been fascinated by mysterious stuff. I believe Atlantis is real, but maybe that's not really its name. And maybe even its grandeur was exaggerated to teach a lesson, but if Mu and Lemuria are considered real, why can't "Atlantis"? Keep writing stuff like this! so that people will stop being so narrow-minded about the world.
K@ri, an interesting take on Plato's dialogues. Glad I finally discovered your Hub.
As you've likely learned since you wrote your hub, the image in Google Earth was an artifact of the scan process and not a real structure.
As for its location, it's too far south. Atlantis faced Gadira (modern Cadiz), according to Plato. It was also about 1-2x the size of Texas, likely stretching from near Gibraltar to the Azores. In fact, Plato says that it took 11 days to sail to Atlantis from Gibraltar. Could he have meant 11 days to the heart or capital of Atlantis? This would place the capital at the Azores.
But there is also a geological reason for placing Atlantis in this stretch of Northeast Atlantic. Most mountains and many islands are formed near tectonic plate boundaries. And guess what? That's what this stretch of the Atlantic is -- the Africa-Eurasia tectonic boundary.
And we now have proof of an Atlantis-like event right when Atlantis supposedly subsided. Evidence from three different fields of science. Pretty cool stuff.
K@ri, you told King Sammy some time ago that these are actual conversations Plato had. That's not exactly accurate. Plato may have witnessed the conversations, but they were between Socrates, Critias, Timaeus and Hermocrates. Most scholars I've read who discuss the issue think Plato was likely about ten years old, when these elders had their conversation.




































Peggy W Level 8 Commenter 3 years ago
Interestng hub. Also interesting lessons.